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do you know what the reason is?
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 6/16/2023 11:53 AM
who knows, brain working hard
11:53 AM
it could be something else too so drink and sleep and eat well so you dont accidentally mistake those for tulpa headache
11:54 AM
we still get fuzzy and tired if i let my tulpa front for a longer time, which isnt really that long for us yet
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Generally I say that's a result of your brain using new mental muscles it's not used to using. Should go away if you do the activities consistently for a while
11:55 AM
Most people never get headaches or head pressures or anything like that, but a lot of people do
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 6/16/2023 11:56 AM
i like to think its the brain restructuring itself to some degree but thats just a dumb guess
11:56 AM
and could mean anything
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I think both thoughts may be correct. initially, I adhered to the idea that it may initially be difficult for our brains to get used to certain changes and therefore headaches arise.
12:00 PM
however, my headaches have become too frequent, as well as a large amount of fatigue.
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I recommend vitamins and water, lol
12:01 PM
And enough sleep, of course
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Reisen
I recommend vitamins and water, lol
I have already taken them. the effect is quite small.
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Hmm, you shouldn't really notice effects from taking vitamins
12:06 PM
It's just to assure good health
12:07 PM
But yeah, just gummy multivitamins from walmart will do
12:07 PM
(the kind with like 10+ vitamins listed on the nutrition label)
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KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ BOT 6/16/2023 12:08 PM
get some sleep, get some rest, don't force yourself too much
12:10 PM
and when you tulpa force, pay attention if you are tensing up the muscles on your head at all - if you do, just relax them
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KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧
and when you tulpa force, pay attention if you are tensing up the muscles on your head at all - if you do, just relax them
Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 6/16/2023 7:59 PM
what?
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Why would you tense the muscles in your head?
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Dunno, but I'm not the one who got headaches or weird sensations
8:02 PM
It's not unheard of for people to stress random muscles when trying to focus on tulpamancy
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 6/16/2023 8:03 PM
I didnt know that was a thing...
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People do silly things
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 6/16/2023 8:13 PM
or it could just be something unconscious
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It's not like they're tensing up on purpose, it just happens
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In this case the silly thing is focusing super hard, lol
8:18 PM
Thinking harder doesn't make your tulpa exist faster
8:18 PM
Just spending consistent time interacting with them
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Emily Stassia BOT 6/17/2023 3:47 PM
Try passive force more often I guess...
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឵ ឵ ឵ ឵ ឵ ឵ ឵ ឵឵ ឵ ឵ ឵ ឵ ឵Hannah 6/20/2023 5:59 AM
So is there an easy way to tell if something from your past is actually a tulpa?
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When I was younger, whenever I was really sad I pretended my pillow was a human who talked to me and I could hug
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I kind of heard her voice in my head, but a lot of it felt like parroting so I'm not quite sure
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A tulpa is basically an imagined person you've interacted with and held the intent for to be an independent person from you for long enough your brain starts to make it so
6:08 AM
Accidental-tulpa-or-not is usually up to how much you thought of them as a separate person from yourself, with something you consider yourself directly fully in control of usually being called an imaginary friend instead by this community (though not everyone necessarily agrees)
6:10 AM
Regardless, you can always make something into a tulpa by following the standard practice of interacting with them and expecting them to be responding on their own. It might (and often does) sound/feel like you responding for them early on, but if you keep thinking of them as them and not you, their thoughts/voice should start to feel separate and eventually easily distinguishable from yours over time.
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឵ ឵ ឵ ឵ ឵ ឵ ឵ ឵឵ ឵ ឵ ឵ ឵ ឵Hannah 6/20/2023 6:18 AM
I think I felt pretty in control of them (Including making them make "meta-references" like "oh I'm being controlled by you anyways") but sometimes it felt new. Or that could be a placebo effect. Not quite sure. I might make them into a tulpa if I decide to, still thinking if I really can handle everything about that though.
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So is there an easy way to tell if something from your past is actually a tulpa?
@឵ ឵ ឵ ឵ ឵ ឵ ឵ ឵឵ ឵ ឵ ឵ ឵ ឵Hannah - jump i don’t think it matters if what you had in the past was a tulpa experience or not - just focus on what you have here and now and grow from it
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Gray | Shadow System BOT 6/20/2023 2:19 PM
As others have said, you can make her a tulpa if you want to. Keep in mind even fictional characters can be used as a base for your tulpa. Just because it is tulpa-like doesn't mean it is one. You decide to accept it as a tulpa or not.
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Celestial Horror 6/21/2023 3:35 AM
aeon has a question but doesnt rlly know how to phrase it uh basically , is there any reason why someone shouldnt try and make a non humanoid tulpa ?
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I don't think there's any reason not to other than the fact that they might not identify with your body very much
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Skyler 🐉 BOT 6/21/2023 3:36 AM
you don’t even have to be humanoid if you don’t wanna
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Celestial Horror 6/21/2023 3:36 AM
yeah , aeon doesnt fully identify w/ his body either and imposing that on a tulpa seems kinda mean
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They probably won't identify with your body regardless, since they will have a different form But keep in mind that even if you choose a form for a tulpa, they can change it. So if you want, you can give them a non humanoid form and allow them to change it if they don't like it
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Celestial Horror 6/21/2023 3:39 AM
mm nodsnods
3:40 AM
would it be good to state early on [??] that yeah , they are going to be in a body that theyre not going to identify with , they can change their form , all that ?
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I think it would be nice to clarify Though from what i've seen tulpas usually figure that out on their own
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Skyler 🐉 BOT 6/21/2023 3:42 AM
Kira does fine with identifying with the body. And she’s a dragon
3:42 AM
same with Lun. And she’s a kirin
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I guess it depends on the person then
3:43 AM
All my headmates have trouble identifying with our body
3:43 AM
And they're human
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Celestial Horror 6/21/2023 4:25 AM
another thing im seeing a lot of is to not create a tulpa untill you know youre in a good mental state ive got depression ofc , had it for quite some time but i feel like im actually getting better im able to rationalize my thinking more often , im growing the will to help myself , and have an app that i feel greatly helps me yet i can still have some pretty bad dips and i dont want that to hurt any tulpas so ig should i proceed [with caution] or hold off until im sure i feel more stable ?
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The "good mental state" warning for tulpamancy is generally more to do with susceptibility to invasive thoughts than mental health as a whole, I'd say
4:28 AM
Depression is very, very rarely a reason not to practice tulpamancy
4:28 AM
Especially when tulpas are well known for helping their hosts with depression
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឵ ឵ ឵ ឵ ឵ ឵ ឵ ឵឵ ឵ ឵ ឵ ឵ ឵Hannah 6/21/2023 4:28 AM
True!
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My tulpas pretty much changed my life with their support, which is why I've committed to sticking around this community for 9 years now to help others have even close to the same experience
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឵ ឵ ឵ ឵ ឵ ឵ ឵ ឵឵ ឵ ឵ ឵ ឵ ឵Hannah 6/21/2023 4:29 AM
tulpas are known to help with a lot of mental hurdles
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Just as long as you don't create them with the sole intention of being your therapist
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Celestial Horror 6/21/2023 4:29 AM
notetaking yes yes i see i see
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But still yeah, if you struggle with invasive thoughts or being unable to distinguish imagination from reality (eg. in bad schizophrenia), then getting invested in tulpamancy can cause more harm than good
4:30 AM
Though, invasive thoughts without a disorder like schizophrenia attached can generally be worked through, by learning to stop attributing meaning or value to them and just letting them go.
4:31 AM
So I don't know that I would call having any invasive thoughts a reason not to practice tulpamancy - only if they're especially bad and feel totally beyond your control. (edited)
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Celestial Horror 6/21/2023 4:31 AM
nodsnods i get invasive thoughts every now and them but i think im able to stave them off relatively well , even if im still left a little shaken if it was an especially bad one
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this is all really interesting , honestly wish i looked into it sooner instead of just assuming
4:32 AM
then again my mental health has improved a lot since then so maybe i was meant to look into it now
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Celestial Horror 6/21/2023 4:49 AM
ah i have another question [sorry for the barrage of them embarrassedhide ]
4:52 AM
so im a little nervous to say so but im a reality shifter and am wondering how thatd interact with having a tulpa id think that my conciseness would be the only one shifted while my tulpa[s] would stay in the body ?
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Bennett ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 6/21/2023 4:54 AM
I think that depends on how you see it. This server generally takes a more scientific stance on tulpamancy, but I'm assuming you're talking about shifting in a spiritual/metaphysical sense?
4:54 AM
If so, I'd recommend asking in #metaphysics . If I'm wrong, then I apologize.
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Celestial Horror 6/21/2023 4:54 AM
ah okay , thank you :} !
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Bennett ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 6/21/2023 4:54 AM
Mhm! Np.
4:56 AM
It's generally better to ask things regarding that kinda thing there, since not everyone here believes in [insert X spiritual thing here] and meta is somewhere where you'll probably get more direct answers.
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Celestial Horror 6/21/2023 4:57 AM
ahh okay
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Bennett ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 6/21/2023 4:58 AM
Yep, I personally don't know much about that topic, but I'm happy to help elsewhere^^
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Celestial Horror 6/21/2023 5:01 AM
thank u ! i have another question actually :0
5:03 AM
so since tulpas are their own people w/ their own likes and dislikes , how would listening to music pan out ? ive got a kind of uh vast and interesting music taste would it just be like listening to music as you would with someone else thats in the same room except theyre in your head ? but since theyre in your head with you wouldnt that mean they cant really ,,,, get away ??
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Jeanine 🌹Rose Group🌹 3(🏝)0 BOT 6/21/2023 5:03 AM
Depends if they like the music or not
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Bennett ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 6/21/2023 5:04 AM
I don't think that would be a very big issue either way, if they don't like it, they don't need to be anywhere near front to percieve it, or you could compromise and find what kind of music they might like out of your own playlists, so you're both enjoying something
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Unique Username 6/21/2023 5:05 AM
Simply try it and see.
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Celestial Horror 6/21/2023 5:06 AM
nodsnods thank u guys :3
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Bennett ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 6/21/2023 5:07 AM
mhm, np!
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Celestial Horror 6/21/2023 5:10 AM
another thing , which , if this is like a topic thats inappropriate or too personal or smthn like that just say so and i wont go any further im guessing that a tulpa knowing theyre a tulpa doesnt really cause any like ,,, existential crises do they ? argh hard to articulate what i mean
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Unique Username 6/21/2023 5:11 AM
It is unlikely. Humans have issues with this, so I suppose techincally, it is as likely as that.
5:11 AM
Do not worry about such things.
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Bennett ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 6/21/2023 5:12 AM
It's as likely as a human realizing they're a human and having a crisis as a result.
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There's nothing different about being a tulpa, after all.
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Unique Username 6/21/2023 5:12 AM
What are those odd messages?
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Bennett ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 6/21/2023 5:12 AM
How is that odd? It sounded pretty normal to me.
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Unique Username 6/21/2023 5:12 AM
No, I mean what is happening with your messages as you type them. One is appearing, and disappearing.
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Bennett ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 6/21/2023 5:13 AM
Ohh, I'm using Pluralkit. It's a bot that allows one account to have multiple "pesudo-accounts" to differentiate between members of a system.
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Unique Username 6/21/2023 5:13 AM
I see.
5:13 AM
Things have both changed considerably from what I recall, and also, not at all.
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Cri The Cryptid 6/21/2023 5:47 AM
How so?
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Unique Username 6/21/2023 5:52 AM
Ah, the membership appears to be one of the primary differences, with the means by which the community collects itself being a second.
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Cri The Cryptid 6/21/2023 5:54 AM
Ummm could you say that more simply? Sorry I just can't understand...
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Unique Username 6/21/2023 5:54 AM
Old members are gone. IRC is gone.
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Cri The Cryptid 6/21/2023 5:55 AM
IRC?
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